Bob Odenkirk is opening up about the end of Better Call Saul.

The 59-year-old actor spoke out on Saturday (April 9) at the aannual Los Angeles TV showcase PaleyFest, via THR.

During the cast’s presentation, Bob Odenkirk revealed that he had just one request: growth.

“I always wanted the character to grow and I campaigned for that over the years. My argument to [co-creator] Vince Gilligan was that sometimes people do learn the right lessons from trauma and challenge in life; they don’t always become Walter White,” he told THR.

“And I’m going to leave it to you to find out whether that is what happened.”

Co-creator and showrunner Peter Gould added that the upcoming finale was a matter of deciding “what’s the right place to leave him, and I’m really excited about what we came up with. I love it and I hope everyone else does too.”

“We had no idea how we were going to wrap it up until season five, and if you watch season five closely, later on you’ll see the clouds start to part during season five, and I wouldn’t say an ending but we had an image for where we could go. As it worked out we came pretty close, but there were a lot of nuances that were very hard won this season.”

Rhea Seehorn added: “I could not believe the weaving together of all of the storylines and the character stuff that they had to do, as Peter has said it was quite the Rubik’s Cube that he had to figure out. We were stunned. As a cast I think we found it alternately shocking and devastating and sometimes hilariously funny. It’s ultimately very, very thought provoking. I found it to be everything that I’d want as a fan.”

The final season premieres on April 18.

Two major characters will be reprising roles for the ending of the show!